YOURSAY ‘He’s guilty of same offence as Adam who was sentenced to one year jail.’
Noh: BN will rise if ruler's MB choice disputed
Tholu: Selangor BN chief Noh Omar, you are such a hypocrite to the extent of pulling wool over the eyes of the Selangor sultan.
Was BN, during Dr Mahathir Mohamad's premiership, extending an olive branch to the rulers when it feverishly pressured the Malay rulers to agree to the proposed changes in the early 1990s to the constitution that removed their legal immunity?
Didn't BN amend the Sedition Act then to allow public criticism of the rulers during the "constitutional crisis"? Wasn't the present Selangor sultan's father one of the rulers who was “challenged and disrespected” by BN?
Now, without any feelings of shame and guilt you say, "BN will rise when the monarchy is challenged and disrespected..." You are merely an opportunist who, with your other BN goons, is merely trying to fish in troubled waters.
I don't think you are bothered whether or not the crisis is resolved soon. You are actually happy that this is happening in Selangor for opening up opportunities for BN to attempt a takeover of the state.
Kee Thuan Chye: In saying what he said, Noh Omar, who will be seen to be representing Umno's stand, is committing what might be said to be a form of treason - yes, treason against the federal constitution on which our nation is founded.
The person who becomes the next Selangor MB should not be the sultan's choice but the people's choice. We are living in a parliamentary democracy with a constitutional monarchy.
By threatening to rise up against anyone who should oppose the sultan's choice of MB, Umno, through Noh Omar, is subverting the very foundation of our nation.
Disgusted: Noh said: "Whoever is appointed, we are still the opposition, we accept his (sultan’s) decision and we will do our work as opposition."
What he means is that whoever is appointed will be a BN-friendly opposition MB who will work for the interest of Umno-BN and undermine the Pakatan Rakyat government and bring about the hatred and odium of the rakyat of Selangor against Pakatan which will eventually gain the state for BN in next elections all because the rakyat will get fed up with Pakatan's rule and vote for BN in protest.
Mushiro: Noh, please do not insult the sultan with only 500 people who were brought to express love for the sultan.
Go ahead and bring Umno's 12 Aduns (state representatives) to vote in the Dewan when the sitting starts.
Let the sultan decides within the Selangor constitution and let the majority party reacts within the same constitution. Everyone has to learn to abide by the law.
Victor Johan: Pakatan should stay the course as to what is enacted in the federal and the various state constitutions. No compromises whatsoever.
Umno is certainly very threatened with the formidable strength of Pakatan pact and will just use any institution to disrupt the people's on-going choice of support.
The Pakatan leadership should ensure that it defeats all and any endeavours of Umno. The Malaysian constitution is supreme. Period.
Tentarik: Noh, don't be too sure. The whole thing may blow up in your face. People in Selangor are not stupid. They are fully aware of the constitution.
The majority have so far remained silent. Those making a lot of noise are your lackeys, what is 500 paid demonstrators compared to the total population in Selangor?
Think carefully, be rational, and don't forget that the sultan is just the constitutional ruler of Selangor. Everybody should respect and uphold the constitution.
Rick Teo: It now seems defending the constitution is a crime. Since when did we change the constitution for the sultan to select whom he likes without regard to having a majority in the state assembly?
Multi Racial: Noh Omar is an opportunist. He is probably the last person would want to defend the rulers.
As politicians, the primary role of lawmakers is to defend the constitution. At this moment, the constitution has been threatened lawmakers should combine forces to do what is right for the constitution.
Imagine if BN won and BN nominated Noh Omar and the sultan rejected and call BN to submit a few names and eventually appointed someone else. By then, I will wonder whether Noh Omar will still demonstrating in support of the rulers.
Nobody is going against the sultan. They are saying what the sultan did is against the constitution.
If the sultan goes against the constitution that protects the rulers, don't you think ultimately it will be bad for the rulers. So exactly what Noh Omar and these people demonstrating?
Peacemaker: Noh is threatening an uprising with the help of BN supporters. This is seditious because his threat brings the ‘elected government into disaffection’.
He is guilty of the same offence as the young student who was sentenced to 12 months’ jail. We are waiting for the police chief to arrest him. -Mkini
Noh: BN will rise if ruler's MB choice disputed
Tholu: Selangor BN chief Noh Omar, you are such a hypocrite to the extent of pulling wool over the eyes of the Selangor sultan.Was BN, during Dr Mahathir Mohamad's premiership, extending an olive branch to the rulers when it feverishly pressured the Malay rulers to agree to the proposed changes in the early 1990s to the constitution that removed their legal immunity?
Didn't BN amend the Sedition Act then to allow public criticism of the rulers during the "constitutional crisis"? Wasn't the present Selangor sultan's father one of the rulers who was “challenged and disrespected” by BN?
Now, without any feelings of shame and guilt you say, "BN will rise when the monarchy is challenged and disrespected..." You are merely an opportunist who, with your other BN goons, is merely trying to fish in troubled waters.
I don't think you are bothered whether or not the crisis is resolved soon. You are actually happy that this is happening in Selangor for opening up opportunities for BN to attempt a takeover of the state.
Kee Thuan Chye: In saying what he said, Noh Omar, who will be seen to be representing Umno's stand, is committing what might be said to be a form of treason - yes, treason against the federal constitution on which our nation is founded.
The person who becomes the next Selangor MB should not be the sultan's choice but the people's choice. We are living in a parliamentary democracy with a constitutional monarchy.
By threatening to rise up against anyone who should oppose the sultan's choice of MB, Umno, through Noh Omar, is subverting the very foundation of our nation.
Disgusted: Noh said: "Whoever is appointed, we are still the opposition, we accept his (sultan’s) decision and we will do our work as opposition."
What he means is that whoever is appointed will be a BN-friendly opposition MB who will work for the interest of Umno-BN and undermine the Pakatan Rakyat government and bring about the hatred and odium of the rakyat of Selangor against Pakatan which will eventually gain the state for BN in next elections all because the rakyat will get fed up with Pakatan's rule and vote for BN in protest.
Mushiro: Noh, please do not insult the sultan with only 500 people who were brought to express love for the sultan.
Go ahead and bring Umno's 12 Aduns (state representatives) to vote in the Dewan when the sitting starts.
Let the sultan decides within the Selangor constitution and let the majority party reacts within the same constitution. Everyone has to learn to abide by the law.
Victor Johan: Pakatan should stay the course as to what is enacted in the federal and the various state constitutions. No compromises whatsoever.
Umno is certainly very threatened with the formidable strength of Pakatan pact and will just use any institution to disrupt the people's on-going choice of support.
The Pakatan leadership should ensure that it defeats all and any endeavours of Umno. The Malaysian constitution is supreme. Period.
Tentarik: Noh, don't be too sure. The whole thing may blow up in your face. People in Selangor are not stupid. They are fully aware of the constitution.
The majority have so far remained silent. Those making a lot of noise are your lackeys, what is 500 paid demonstrators compared to the total population in Selangor?
Think carefully, be rational, and don't forget that the sultan is just the constitutional ruler of Selangor. Everybody should respect and uphold the constitution.
Rick Teo: It now seems defending the constitution is a crime. Since when did we change the constitution for the sultan to select whom he likes without regard to having a majority in the state assembly?
Multi Racial: Noh Omar is an opportunist. He is probably the last person would want to defend the rulers.
As politicians, the primary role of lawmakers is to defend the constitution. At this moment, the constitution has been threatened lawmakers should combine forces to do what is right for the constitution.
Imagine if BN won and BN nominated Noh Omar and the sultan rejected and call BN to submit a few names and eventually appointed someone else. By then, I will wonder whether Noh Omar will still demonstrating in support of the rulers.
Nobody is going against the sultan. They are saying what the sultan did is against the constitution.
If the sultan goes against the constitution that protects the rulers, don't you think ultimately it will be bad for the rulers. So exactly what Noh Omar and these people demonstrating?
Peacemaker: Noh is threatening an uprising with the help of BN supporters. This is seditious because his threat brings the ‘elected government into disaffection’.
He is guilty of the same offence as the young student who was sentenced to 12 months’ jail. We are waiting for the police chief to arrest him. -Mkini
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